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@owl "public good" is great o/ for many historical reasons I like "the commons" too, as creativecommons ppl noticed before me.

(when we manage to put everything back into the commons where they belong we'll have a system where property is owned in common by the community, a kind of common…na…lism… common-ism…)

@elilla Got any replacement words for "proprietary" that emphasise that it's not public/ours?

@owl no really, no, but personally I like "private ownership of the means of production" xD also "rentism".

@owl "anti-socialist" is one word I'm seeing used for "capitalism" a lot and could work too. it conjures "anti-social" and in doing so restores the point that socialism is supposed to be eusocial (as opposed to "socialism is when the government does everything").

but since "socialist" is a swearword for libertarian techies perhaps a straight "anti-social software" would be better.

artificial scarcity software?

software with government-backed restrictions on distribution?

for services, good ol' walled garden I think

@elilla I found the word anticommons today, but it doesn't mean quite what I thought it would

@owl

"black box software" is one I've used a bunch in privacy contexts. if you're talking to somebody who doesn't care about property laws or the commons but who doesn't like being spied on, you can usually connect by saying "yeah in this kind of blackbox software you don't even know what the code is doing, it could be secretly doing _anything_ with your data and nobody knows". (which is true.)

@owl
It's funny how I use "proprietary" as a bad word but then you hear it in media/ads where it's used as a selling point.

"Closed" has negative connotations, so that's probably a better term, but I would still like something that really communicates what it is.
@elilla

@sudoreboot @owl yeah in the end it's "capitalist software" but this word has been similarly redefined to mean something else (ppl think it is "based on markets with demand curves" rather than "an owner class gets the lion's share of all wealth by virtue of being owners").

"software we can't own" could fit in certain contexts, dunno. "rented software". "software they control"

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