Climate collapse 

@schratze but, like, most of those companies are producing that shit because "we" "want" it

with possible exception for the subset of those companies that exclusively produce weapons and machinery for war

but even then, there's a big subset of people that's super hyped for that (as long as it's not happening in their backyard)

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re: Climate collapse 

@meena @schratze

If companies are producing things because they're doing what people want, then how come everybody is depressed and anxious and suicide rates are unprecedented? How come everybody hates the lives we have?

If it was true that ecological collapse was being driven by people being greedy rapacious consumerists, people would be having fun with it. If humanity was the virus, we would be laughing manically and dancing in the forest fires as we enjoy our cellphone games. Rather everybody seems to feel the grudge of the addict towards their cellphones and to grudgingly binge netflix to try to compensate for a day of bullshit labour we wish we weren't doing.

There was a thread once on Ask Reddit about "how do people have sex at your workplace". Top comment by far was about a guy who worked planting trees; his comment had a zillion upvotes and medals and hijacked the thread, and the thread wasn't about the sex, it was about "how do I get a job planting trees."

80% of Americans support switching to renewable fuels rather than fossils, and that's including Republicans, including Trump voters, _before_ the invasion. 80% support tough restrictions on carbon emissions. 73% support carbon tax. 87% support planting a trillion trees. That last one is 87% of conservative Trump voter Christian right Republicans. With Democrat voters the number is 94%.

If everyone wants to work planting trees, and everyone wants trees to be planted, how come we are all sitting in front of computers? Who is this minority, dunno, let's say, 1% of people who decide what are we paid to do all day and therefore control consumer habits :thounking:

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